September 8, 2009 UPDATEDefendant Miguel Elizondo is scheduled for sentencing on October 7, 2009. Click here for link to Docket Calendar 2009-001825-FH PEOPLE vs. ELIZONDO, MIGUEL A, Hon. Peter J. Maceroni presiding.
Earlier this year, the City of Warren which neighbors Troy, Michigan, took steps to enforce the statutes of Michigan relative to prostitution in their community. After personally viewing the situation with patrolling police officers, Mayor Jim Fouts concluded - as have most reasonable observers - the myth that prostitution is a "victimless crime" is a dangerous misconception for a normal, socially conscientious and healthy community.
Unlike the City of Troy Police Department's seriously flawed handling of the Thomas Athans/Alycia Martin case, and the "special" handling of the Elliott Spitzer/Ashley Dupre case in New York (with contacts taking place in Washington, D.C.) Mayor Jim Fouts and the Warren Police undercover officers took on the entire operation in their sting, not just the targetting the vulnerable woman being prostituted, as in the Alycia Martin case. It should be noted that most critics of the Troy Police Department's handling of the Martin case agree: if the women are doing illegal activities, then they should be prosecuted, but to release the johns "scot-free" is morally wrong and sends the wrong message. Law enforcement must enforce all the laws against violators irrespective of wealth, social standing, or political influence. If the failure to charge Thomas Athans and release him to drive on a suspended license is perceived as wrong and a "double standard," then failure to vigorously and actively pursue the pimp and handlers is reprehensible, outrageous and shameful.
It is posited by the Troy Police Department that the physical arrest, and filing of charges against the prostituted 20 year old girl; hitting her with forfeiture proceeding (taking all her money); and publicizing her identity, while not arresting or ticketing the alleged john, is somehow going to magically force or encourage the cooperation and testimony by young girl against the pimp handler. In this so called police methodology, the admitted john is joked with and befriended, told not to worry, and treated deferentially. The prostituted woman is searched, arrested, processed, charged, and prosecuted. When examined objectively, this pretext is shamefully false, especially in light of a neighboring jurisdiction's commitment to traditional enforcement techniques.
Dilligent police work seems to work successfully in Warren, Michigan, yet is "impossibly difficult" in neighboring Troy. Special Investigations Division's efforts in the Warren Police Department resulted in the following arrests, hardly a failure by any standards:
(Excerpted from Warren Police Department Web Site)
"Warren Mayor Jim Fouts is publishing the names of individuals arrested for such crimes on the city’s Web site and in the future, on TV Warren cable channels. October 17, 2008, Commissioner William Dwyer announces that in a continuing effort to stop prostitution within the city of Warren, officers of the Warren Police Special Investigation Division arrested nine subjects. This sting operation occurred on October 16, 2008 at a local hotel in the city of Warren. The females arrested in this incident all reside in the tri-county area and charged anywhere from $150-$250 an hour for their services.As a result of this operation the following individuals were arrested and warrant requests were presented to the Macomb County Prosecutor’s Office. After reviewing the files, the Macomb County Prosecutor’s authorized the following:
ROBERTA ANTIONETTE LOBERT, a 34-year-old Sterling Heights resident, was arraigned on a two-count misdemeanor warrant charging her with: Count 1: Prostitution, 93-day misdemeanor, and Count 2: Use of the Internet in commission of a crime, one-year misdemeanor.
KATRINA LYNN SAHABI, a 21-year-old West Bloomfield resident, was arraigned on a two-count misdemeanor warrant charging her with:Count 1: Prostitution, 93-day misdemeanor, and Count 2: Use of the Internet in commission of a crime, one-year misdemeanor.
CELESTE MARIE VALASTEK, a 27-year-old Memphis resident, was arraigned on a three-count misdemeanor warrant charging her with:Count 1: Prostitution, 93-day misdemeanor,Count 2: Conspiracy to commit Prostitution, 93-day misdemeanor, andCount 3: Use of the Internet in commission of a crime, one-year misdemeanor.
MARIE ALLEN THOMPSON, a 25-year-old White Lake resident, was arraigned on a three-count misdemeanor warrant charging her with:Count 1: Prostitution, 93-day misdemeanor,Count 2: Conspiracy to commit Prostitution, 93-day misdemeanor, and Count 3: Use of the Internet in commission of a crime, one-year misdemeanor.
SHANNON NICOLE HENDERSON, a 29-year-old Detroit resident, was arraigned on a three-count misdemeanor warrant charging her with:Count 1: Prostitution, a 93-day misdemeanor,Count 2: Use of the Internet in commission of a crime, one-year misdemeanor and Count 3: Driving on a Suspended License, a one-year misdemeanor.
WENDELL POLK, a 36-year-old Detroit resident, was arraigned on a four-count misdemeanor warrant charging him with:Count 1: Prostitution, 93-day misdemeanor,Count 2: Conspiracy to commit Prostitution, one-year misdemeanor,Count 3: Possession of Marijuana, one-year misdemeanor, and Count 4: Operating a motor vehicle without a driver’s license, 93-day misdemeanorMICHAEL DWAYNE EDMONDS, a 47-year-old Southgate resident, was arraigned on a two-count misdemeanor warrant charging him with:Count 1: Prostitution, 93 day misdemeanor, and Count 2: Conspiracy to commit Prostitution, one-year misdemeanor.
MIGUEL ANTONIO ELIZONDO, a 43-year-old Southgate resident, was arraigned on a three-count warrant charging him with:Count 1: Accepting earnings from Prostitution, a twenty-year felony,Count 2: Prostitution, 93-day misdemeanor, and Count 3: Conspiracy to commit Prostitution, one-year misdemeanor.
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Officers also seized five vehicles pending forfeiture proceedings, along with $696.00 in cash, several cell phones, a laptop computer and a digital camera.Commissioner William Dwyer states, “This type of criminal activity will not be accepted nor tolerated in the city of Warren. The Warren Police Department is committed to the investigation and prosecution of any individuals who participate in this criminal enterprise.” http://www.cityofwarren.org/default.asp?area_2=police/prostitution.dat&area_7=nav/police.dat&area_5=police/right.dat&objectid=C27B0E0&ml_index=13&NC=3466X
Case in point: The Warren Police managed to arrest all participants and charged an alleged panderer with the 20 year felony.
This operation is true law enforcement of the statutes, and the City of Warren and it's Police Department should be commended for a job well done as leaders for the region as they "strive" to address the issue in their community.
Sadly, one the alleged prostitutes arrested in this sting operation has passed away. It is the point and argument of this blog that prostituted women caught up in this industry should be helped, not punished, and treated with compassion and dignity. Accordingly, at the request of her family and friends, her photograph and references to her have been removed from this blog. Law enforcement should focus their resources on the predators of these young women, the "johns" and the "sex industrialists." Her loss is a loss to every responsible and conscientious citizen.
Where police and responsible members of the citizenry neglect or fail to act, prostituted women are victims, drained of life and hope. One can hardly imagine that a woman would "choose" this life. The only choice usually is to choose to live and not be homeless, hungry, and alone. Likewise, Johns, if forced to face the consequence of their actions, educated, and their activities publicized would not continue their use of other human beings for their selfish needs and gratification. Investigation, arrest and prosecution the predatory pimps, handlers, bottoms and security members of the ring would, as believed by most reasonable observers, comprehensively address this criminal activity. Arresting only the prostituted woman hardly seems to scratch the surface. Both the demand end (the john/user) and the supply distribution end (the pimp) are left untouched. It is disgraceful where only the prostituted person (the product) it targeted for arrest and prosecution.
All jurisdictions in Southeastern Michigan should follow the lead set by the City of Warren Police Department.
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hi,
just wanted to pass along this note. I hope all the girls lead a good life. My cousin whom you have listed as a prostitude jacqueline swanger has died. i dont know the whole story other than her mom and grandma are grieving so bad that they cant speak to anyone. grandma had to go to detroit/wayne county and claim her body but not til after a autopsy will they release her. I dont know if she was killed by a john or drugs. it doesn't matter now. She will be missed. She was the only one who could of turned herself around. I wished her photo hadn't been made public like this. No one will ever know how she felt about that other than her family didnt need to see her online. I think that is a terrible thing for warren to do. The girls need help and this isnt a solution to publicize their photos since the internet is forever. anyhow I will close this and hope the best for all. Everyone will miss jacqueline who knew her.
I was at Jacqueline Swanger's service Today. I'm a freind of the father. Very sad. Only about 25 people. Her grandmother was there and very distressed. I tried to comfort her after the service, but it didn't help. She hates very much. Pray for her. I'm really without words, and disturbed about it. Mike
My sincere condolences to the family of Jacqueline Swanger. It is important, I think, that there be an understanding by the public and public officals that these women are victims, not criminals. What is also as important is to convince the prostituted person that they do have value, are loved, and not forgotten. It has been my experience that it is usually impossible for a prostituted woman to escape without help. The pimps, johns and sex industrialists are constantly tearing down their self esteem and self image. They truly are "brainwashed" with drugs and alcohol that they have no other options. Outwardly they push away family and people trying to help, inwardly they feel trapped and hopeless. Many prostituted persons choose overdose to continuing their lives. There is hope, however, as in Washtenaw County officials are considering john schools to make johns pay for rehabilitation services for the prostituted women, and educate the johns about the cost of their behavior. I suppose this may be the purpose to an otherwise senseless loss of a young woman's life. I will be putting together another post with more information about how we as a region can help these less fortunate persons.
Contact information can be left confidentially at www.cusumanolaw.com.
how dare you put jackie's pic up there. im, devastated right now and for the record, she was clean 93 days. they need to take her fucking picture down, there is no reason to shame her anymore. as her mother its hard enough to deal with and as for GRANDMA, who can win a fucking oscar for that performance. she's the one who started her on vicodin as a child. i expect those comments, and her picture REMOVED. i appreciate the comment from the attorney though, that these womens' spirits are broken. the rest of the comments need to go, TAKE MY DAUGHTERS PICTURE DOWN!!! jackie was a fucking amazing person. i deserve an apology for any and all comments about my kid. there was no reason to use her as a 'this can happen to you' thing. take her off of there immediately. i highly advise you remove everything about her on this site.
fuck all of you.
Im Jacquelines little brother.
I couldnt make it to her funeral, but for those of you who judge fuck off.
And please that bitch you call her grandmother needs a fucking award for the acting she puts on, dramaful bitch.
She did what she had to, to servive with out shame...how many can say the same.
All us got things in the past, so watch throwing them rocks in your little glass house.
this is jackies mom again. i realize my profanity before may cause that post not to be put up, so i will put this as calmly as i can. please take my daughters picture off of here asap. she does not deserve to be humiliated anymore, so if anyone on this site has a heart, and compassion, take it down. i really dont want to see my daughter up here, her pic being used as a 'dont end up like this' kind of thing. as for the 'grandmother', she definetely deserves an oscar for her 'performance' at that memorial. she gave jackie vicodins at an early age, and numerous times, turned her away when she came to her house in need of a place to stay and called the police to get rid of her. no one should be comforting her, because she is a big part of the reason my daughter began the long, difficult road that eventually led to her death. so please dont anyone expect me to feel pity on her, as she doesnt deserve it. i found out about this site from someone i know, and im absolutely appalled, and enraged that my childs picture is up here. if anyone has any decency on this site, TAKE HER PICTURE DOWN, AS WELL AS THE COMMENTS ALREADY MADE ABOUT HER. if not the comments, at the very least take her picture down. im still grieving the loss of my child, i dont need to see her humiliated yet again, with this picture. i want it taken off immediately.
Excuse Me!! BUT!! Whoever runs this site really needs to take down the photo of Jacqueline Mysti Swanger. She has passed on and shouldn't be shown in this article about her past life.
Shame on you for putting Jacqueline's photo up. She is gone now. Take it down!
my cousin has tried to post a few times, and has yet to see her posts on here. her request, is that you remove her daughter's picture, please. jacqueline is gone, and there is no reason for her picture to be used that way. im happy miss martin was able to get out of her situation, but unfortunately not everyone does. my cousin should not be used to demonstrate what miss martin will not become. its inexcusable to not only put her picture up there, but to use her name as well. no girls picture, or name should be put online to make an example of, or to be used as a 'very remote chance' of someone 'ending up as'. our family is still grieving, and seeing her picture up here, is not making it any better. so please, take her picture down, for the sake of her mother, she doesnt need to deal with any more, shes been through enough.
I would like my daughters picture removed from this and to say "to end up like her" that is very hurtful! I am her mother and would like this removed or I will seek other ways to have it removed!
Our family is going through enough right now as she was my only daughter and I raised her by myself! And no one mentioned that her "grandmother" was part of the problem!
Please remove my daughters name and photo and allow us to grieve!
Devastated mom!
Hello,
I am Jacquelines mother.
I would like to have my daughters name and photo removed from this.
She had a hard life and it WAS NOT drugs! She was clean 93 days.
Having her up here is not helping me or her siblings at all.
No one has mentioned that she was turning her life around she was out looking for a job a real job. So to assume that she was doing this again you are wrong!
I do believe that the "Johns" should be treated the same way and get the same record and sentence as these women. But she was not doing this when she was murdered!
As far as the show her "grandmother" put on at the service..That is exactly what it was a "show" Her grandmother is at fault here also handing my daughter Vicodins at a very early age and taking her to "Johns" and watching my daughter turn tricks. So please do not pity that woman she destroyed my only daughter! And I will never forgive her for that. After she had turned my daughter out at age 14 she decided that she didn't like what she had done and started calling the police on my daughter and had her removed from the home.
She would also leave notes in my daughters pockets stating "If found contact her mother" like a stray animal. "Grandma" also drove my daughter to Detroit just to get her out of the way dumped her belongings in the allies so please do not buy that act of hers.
Now I would like my daughters name and picture removed from here and give us time to grieve. This is very painful! And I hope no other parent has to ever get the call I got and have to go through what we are going through!
As far as Alycia..I wish her well and hope things change for her she is a very beautiful woman! But please don't use my daughter as an example that hurts us even more.
Please remove or we will find other ways to have my daughters name and photo removed. I hope that it is just removed and you consider our feelings and what we are going through!
A confused and devasted mom
Thank you for removing my daughters photo and name. I know it was meant to help others to get out of this but right now I am her mother and I just couldn't see her name and photo up here and her brother (real brother) is all I have left and I couldn't let him go through more pain over a post.
I hope the girls get the help they need.
But from experience they are going to have to hit rock bottom before they realize there is no good to all of this. It's a for sure thing that if the drugs don't kill you someone will.
I had to see my daughters look. pride and spirit just get taken and beaten. This is very hard to deal with!
The mother and other family members of jacqueline swanger keep coming up on this page with her photo. I hope someone with enough decentcy that has control of this website takes it down. you know her mom will keep reading this over and over. this is hell for her. use someone else as your example
All references to Jacqueline Swanger were removed approximately one week ago from the blog. The text referring to her was replaced with condolences to the bereaved family.
It has always been the point of the blog to support Alycia Martin, support any and all prostituted women similiarly situated who reach out for help; to treat them with dignity and respect; and offer real help. We have been in contact with many persons who have helped these women. We are working on a shelter/safe house. As indicated on the edited blog entry, her loss is a loss to all citizens of conscience in this region. The admonishment above for Alycia's family should ring true to Jackie's family as well, this blog is not about blame. It is about hope and a second chance. My only regret is that I could not have spoken to Jackie personally before she passed. Hopefully, others can be helped before it is too late.
I want to thank you again for removing my daughters picture.
I JUST found out it was NOT drugs that killed my daughter (as I had suspected) she was murdered! Since my daughters death I have been on here looking at the comments.
I have also been looking at the news and have found a few more young ladies and two men that were found dead also. The women were found the same way my daughter was found (body was burned) the two men their hands were cut off. I met one of the men he was a friend of my daughters.
I hope all of these women get the help they need. But it is up to them to fight the temptations after they do get help.
I never went to any of the services that were out there for families that have a child that was an addict which I somewhat wish I did. I am having a hard time even writing this. The pain is not ever going to go away.
I am thankful for the time I got to have with her but it was only 22years, she missed out on so much! I have a hard time looking at her pictures and seeing how she went from such a beautiful child/young lady to the picture that was posted and how she looked and acted when she came home.
These drugs and lifestyles really take a toll on them their looks are gone in less then a month and their spirit is broken so fast.
The drug dealers and "Johns" are so happy to get to them but once they get addicted and the looks are gone the dealers and "Johns" treat them so bad! Like trash. And that doesn't help these women it makes it worse to where they have to numb the pain even more.
She had so much talent and could make you laugh no matter what mood you were in.
I met some of her friends that are posted on here when Jacqueline was clean for over 6 months and she wanted to let her friends know that if she could fight it they could to.
She was so much fun to be around. And not to many people can say she wasn't.
I learned so much from my daughter and even at the end she taught me the hardest lesson.
Don't take it for granted that your child/parent/spouse will be calling or coming home the next day. Because there may not be a tomorrow for them. So take them and try to help as much as you can.
I drove for hours while she was in rehab centers but it was well worth it to see my "real" daughter again and please don't just push them away. I was so glad when Jacqueline came home she slept in her bed and ate well. No she didn't stay for long but she would come and sleep for days and eat..
They need to know they are still loved and wanted but it is painful for us to watch what they go through.
It's a hard battle! I watched it for years but you can win!
I have always said that dealers need to be charged also because in my eyes they are committing murder slowly on the addicts.
And the "Johns" should be charged and treated just like these women! Maybe they should be required to register as a sex offender also.
Regardless of how anyone supports a habit (of any kind) they don't deserve to be beaten, raped, murdered or have to be put up on some site.
My world has been crushed as I miss my only daughter everyday. But the pain is gone now and the shame she carried for some years is over now also.
No one posted up here that she had a son and the father was killed also 3 years (almost to the same exact date) before. She was so lost after that happen. She spent 7years with her sons father. She really loved him!
Jacqueline was very much loved by so many! Her (real) brother and I are so lost right now about all of this.
Please I can't say this enough help these girls let them know they are someone and they are loved. It takes alot but it is worth it.
I don't feel that this "sting" helped at all! I believe it made it worse! They need to be kicking in doors of the monsters that sell this trash to people (they don't even care how old the person is just as long as they get money) the dealers KNOW what is going to happen so they need to be charged with something. I would go for attempted murder.
Thank you
not sure if this posted more then once if so please excuse me as the computer is freezing up.
My condolences on the family's loss.
A friend of mine was involved in the Warren sting, and I've been hoping she's okay (haven't heard anything new on the matter, but then I live out of Michigan).
Best of luck to Miss. Martin.
bernie,
i dont know if you still check this site or if you remember me. my name is angela and i used to work with you. i had met jackie through you. i have run into her since and i had only seen her clean and sober. i know that she had a hard life, but she was trying to turn herself around. i last saw her at the end of january and she had such high hopes for the future. i dont know the details about what happened, i just found out today, but please know that she always spoke so highly of you and loved you very much. you are in my prayers
to real mom B.D.
I hope your doing better. I haven't seen you in years. I just found this site. heard about your baby girl jacqueline. You have always been the funniest and most lovable cousin. I hope you can heal. I agree know you've been though a lot. No one but you will know what im saying. cept our mom's are sisters and they're very selfish olson grannys. I hope you all best. you will always be loved by your family your cousin, T
I didn't know how to express my sorrow being neither one of our mothers would give me a way to contact you. take care ber.. I love you!
Hi bernice,
some time has passed since jaquelines untimely death. Please know she was loved by all who really knew her. I myself remember the little girl always sitting on your lap.
We knew her when she was little and our mothers never let us get a hold of you to know her when she got older. I know you were such a loving mom to both you kids. I can't imagine your pain. I wish I could hold you and tell you it will be alright. I can't since this is the worst. The lose of your child. We are and should always know we would go first. We never ever think our children would pass before the parents. Oh bernice I only found out that your brother jack also passed last year. Keep strong. You are and she knew you loved her. I love You! your one of 68 first cousins. Bonnie
Some of these women don't have much choice on doing this.
Most have kids to feed. And if they are out there to feed and keep their kids warm and dry then I hope they make it safely through the night.
These are not bad women! Most just get caught up in bad relationships and need to get out or there is no money to take care of their family. Everytime I see a lady get into a car I sit and hope they make it back. Because they are risking their lives everytime they go out there. But they are out there for a reason.
Why not take some of those abandoned homes and give them to people that are homeless? The houses are not doing any good just sitting there vacant. That's where all the rapes, killings and drug dealings go on. So if they just allow homeless families to take them then there would be less dead women,babies, crack houses, rapes the list just goes on.
The houses were offered before for the hurricane victims. I believe there was an offer for 300 families to come to Michigan and live in these homes. Let's take care of our own first.
These women need a safe warm place to go to. And I don't mean throwing 5-10 in one home. There are enough vacant homes to place alot of families in their own homes.
These women are out there for some sort of reason help them!
Somehow I stumbled onto another portion of this story.
They have the movie Pretty Woman on there.
How did that get involved? None of these women expected to find a man/woman that was a millionaire and take them off the streets. Believe it or not these women do have a brain and know the difference between a movie and real life. That movie had nothing to do with these women or did it make it look good to work the streets. It was a fantasy movie that was a really good movie at that. And I don't for a minute believe that someone watched it and decided they were going to become prostitutes and get out of the hood.
That whole page I just stumbled on made all of Detroit look bad.
There's also videos on there of a poor girl who lost her mother the same way alot of the women are being taken away. RAPED, SLICED, TORTURED THEN SOMETHING POURED ON THEM AND BURNED. I can relate to this poor girl because I lost someone the same way.
I'm not understanding how there are so many men and women (mainly women) are being killed this way and no one can find out who is doing it.?
Or is it that no one wants to find the person(s) that is doing this so it less work for the police departments to do. The killer(s) are taking our loved ones and no one is looking or cares to spend the time to stop it.
These women are not trash that you just throw away they have families and they deserve to be protected also. Not arrested and degraded.
Things need to change here!!
Here I am again.
And I see my daughters picture is still part of this.
I have asked, cussed, begged, pleaded and threatened to have my child remove from this and they post a lie saying out of respect to the family her name and picture was removed. It's still here not right in front of you but in the side pictures.
Maybe I should post the pictures of this lovely city from all the years we lived here. Not so pretty! Rats, dope dealers in front of every store, crack houses everywhere, trash all over the streets, stray dogs, What about the elderly woman that was found in a dumpster at the grocery store? I can remember when some morons burned a cross in someones front yard.
Yeah this is a place to be proud of! This post doesn't help at all to make your city look any better either.
I had posted earlier take some of these rat infested homes from the drug dealers and allow these women to live in them where they can be safe from rapes, killings, the cold weather, from starving. I am not saying allow illegal acts to go on in them. But gve these homes to families and some to these ladies that have no pace to go and get rest, food, warm (or cooled) a place to sleep where they are not at risk of being beaten, raped or killed.
These women are also your mothers, sisters, cousins, wives, girlfriends friends so HELP THEM! Then your city will start looking better then any other.
They didn't post my comment to the people that left notes to me.
Angela thank you for what you had to say about my daughter. Cousin T I really don't know who you are but thank you and cousin Bonnie, I wish you could have gotten to know my daughter better.
The world lost alot when she was taken!
She was truely an amazing person!
Regardless of what ths site has to say or what they THINK they know my daughter was a blessing to everyone! And no matter what they put up here it didn't change a damn thing I loved her with all my heart and I am not ashamed of anything she has ever done. I am very proud of my daughter!
I am ashamed of the police department and the mayor for thinking this bull shit was going to help. It made them look worse! They don't mind drug dealers running their streets or people being mugged and beaten but hey had to pick something they weren't getting any profit from and "crack down" on it!
I also want to know why they were on that side of 8 mile? And while they were over on that side why weren't the strip clubs getting hit? I'm sure the polce were just doing the "Michigan turn arounds" when they approached these women and not one officer was in the clubs..SURE!!!
What's the difference anyways? In the clubs or in the cars isn't it the same?
Not saying it's right but really think about it!
And I can recall walking across 8 mile to go shopping did that make me a "hooker"?
This whole site needs to come down
I am hoping that some of these ladies are back home safe.
I know some can't go back because some people can't find it in their hearts to help them.
I am still having a very hard time dealing with the fact that my daughter will not be coming through my door or calling me again. And I hope no other parent has to go through this.
Regardless of what my daughter did I was and always will be proud of her and she knew she could always come home and eat,sleep whatever she needed or wanted for as long as she needed. And I'm glad we did that because now that she is gone if I hadn't of been like that with her I'm sure I'd be going insane even more.
I do have alot of questions that are coming up now. And I'm sure there will be more.
I want to know how my daughter was found in an area where she never went. Behind a burned down house. The police told me her body was burned from the house fire BUT that house burned down months before my daughter was found. My daughters body was found "frozen solid" but yet burned from that house. Pictures were taken of the area (by a friend) and this was in Feb. if there was a fire there would of been ice from the water putting the fire out, atleast a puddle but yet there wasn't even a drop..?? Then the morgue tells me they are testing my daughters clothes to find out "what they burned her with" but haven't heard a damn thing.
She was not a piece of trash and none of these other women are either.
I KNOW that Gratiot always has police cars driving up and down non stop. Now please tell me how my daughter was grabbed a plastic bag put over her head and dragged across all those lanes and not one police officer seen this? I will not go into what happen to her after they dragged her across Gratiot and into an alley but someone could have stopped this! And I KNOW this has happened to more women. Maybe the people of Detroit need to take care of the streets. I've watched the videos that are posted on here about Detroit and it's a shame! It makes us look like animals! So if the people take care of the crimals and the rapists maybe the city can make a come back.
Hell the only ones that are getting a paycheck is the police and they are not doing their job. Sorry! I haven't heard anything about them even looking for these assholes that are out there killing these women.
If the people take over there won't be as much dead babies found in allies, babies/children raped in vacant homes, stabbings, muggings. The people will feel better if they have control and maybe just maybe another parent won't have to go through what I am going through.
And yes give them vacant homes to families. YES GIVE. That's one less vacant home for some dope dealer to take or for some baby or woman to be raped and murdered in.
Sorry just some thoughts that have come to mind but just might work!
REST IN PEACE TO MY BABY THAT LOST HER LIFE SO EARLY THAT COULD OF BEEN STOPPED AND SHE COULD HAVE BEEN HELPED! IF PEOPLE THAT GOT PAYCHECKS DID THEIR JOBS!
We have not forgotten Jackie, she is in our hearts, thoughts and prayers as are you and the rest of her family!!
Angela...
Who are you?
I can not figure out who you are where we worked together or when I introduced you to my daughter.
Thank you for your kind words for her.
I hope alot more women are safe and at home tonight.
Bernie,
I worked with you at Linda's Place and I lived on the other side of martin from your parents. Jackie once came and swam in my pool. I used to walk my dog over to your house. More recently, I was in jail for a first offense DUI, i ran into her there. she remembered me and finally I knew who she was. I currently attend AA and that was where I learned of her awful death. Another girl that was in jail with us told me about it, i was so shocked, i started crying right there at the table. I have never had to live as she did in her addiction, I was fortunate, but i know many people that i have run into in jail and the time i was in rehab for alcohol that had to go through thinkgs that she did. it is horrible that anyone should have to live that way, but that is what addiction can lead you to. I will not for one minute say that it is ok to get into drugs, but once you are, you cant help yourself. it becomes an illness that you cannot control anymore than you can control cancer. and it can be just as painful and lead to as horrible of a death as cancer. she did what she had to do to survive, nobody in their right mind can fault her for that. those of us that knew her know that she was a beautiful person, both inside and out. she gave a speech to high school kids while i was in jail with her, the "scared straight" program. showed them multiple mug shots and the effects that drugs can have on your life. she was so proud to do it. she hoped that she touched and changed at least one young girls life by doing that. you should be so proud of that. I dont know for sure what got her into drugs, but i think i remember you telling me. im not going to repeat it on here. my email is ang1def@yahoo.com. if you want to get in touch with me, please feel free. i dont want to leave my phone number on this forum. i dont live in roseville anymore, but im not far, just in clinton twp. dotn hesitate to contact me. you both are in my prayers every night as is your family. Angela
Has there been any further update as to this case and those involved? Anyone jailed, released, made any statement, anything? Not living in Michigan makes it difficult to find out these things.
September 8, 2009 UPDATE
Defendant Miguel Elizondo is scheduled for sentencing on October 7, 2009. Cut and paste into your browser the following address:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/19544208/Elizondo-Case
I have never had the direct email for Ms. Swanger's mother or other relatives. I would like to speak with them, since I know several Warren Police Officers and would like to aid them in seeking justice for their daughter. Relatives of Ms. Swanger can comment, speak and testify before sentencing in accordance with the Michigan Crime Victims Act. Be sure to speak with the Prosecuting Attorney to advise him/her of your desire to make a statement.
Hello,
I just came back to this site to see if anyone has posted for my daughter Jacqueline.
I also came back to see if her picture was removed from the other part of this site.
I to have left that state and will not return. I can't I am still trying to deal with all of this.
If you need to get ahold of me I am Jacquelines mother and my email address is paradise.hearts@yahoo.com I had it in one of my post but it was removed before it was placed up here.
I just looked at that persons case where they said they are trying to contact us and we can testify against that person.
For what? There is nothing there about him killing my daughter.
Many thanks, Mr. Cusumano. A little further digging has turned up nothing new on my friend, but let's hope no news truly is good news.
bernice this is tammy *t*, I wrote a comment a bit earlier. I know you in so much pain. I can't imagine. I hope somehow you email me with you number. I hope to be there for you. I know our mom's are works of art. I don't speak to mine and I know you don't speak to your. (last I heard from bonnie). I don't want to air anymore other than to say we've had a hell of a life thanks to them. We did turn out ok for how they are. I do wish I'd of gotten to know jacqueline. Our family wouldn't give me a way to reach you. You mom hung up on me when I asked how to reach you. Take care. You will always be known to me as "the swinging swanger". Oh bernice, I wish you pain would end. love you!
I hope everyone has a coat, gloves and a warm place to stay as the weather is starting to change here.
Be safe and please go with your gut feeling if it feels wrong pass it by. It's not worth it.
You are all beautiful woman and loved!
I always gave whatever I could to help a young woman that was out in the cold.
And it actually helped me more then anything.
It's amazing when you are kind to people what they will do for you.
And now I have two heartless assholes to deal with. And they will be dealt with. My friends will be taking care of you BUT I will be the one that gets to light that fire like you two did to my daughter. Who by the way was NOT dead. Her breathing always slowed down I had to put a mirror under her nose so many times to make sure she was breathing. She would of been fine in an hour. But you two chose to kill her. How do you think she was in the yard and not in the house that you started the fire in? She was still alive you heartless bastards.
And you will get payback! And I will enjoy every moment of it!
Have a nice night.
If anyone sees a woman out there without a coat or golves please help her. We always did and I am so glad I do this. My daughter would want me to keep on helping and I will.
I am trying to heal and it is not going very well.
This was my first born and only daughter. I am trying to deal with this without any mind altering drugs.
I look at her pictures everyday her smile, her beauty, the love she carried. The love and care she had for everyone and loved all animals.
I am asking that her names and any thing that refers to her name be removed from this entire site. She does not need to be known as this. She was far more then what is in these stories. And NO ONE knew her like her only brother and I did (other then her boyfriend of 8 years that lost his life so early also) but we knew the real her and she doesn't need to be up here.
So please remove everything about her. I will check in a few days and hopefully all the comments will be removed and I can try to keep her name clean and remember the Jacqueline that her brother and I knew.
If it's not all removed I will contact an attorney. I can't heal with seeing all of this.
Fake people that knew nothing of her but say they did. Fake friends fake family that was NEVER there while she was growing up.
Just remove everything that refers to her please and lets just let this go away.
I miss her more and more everyday and as the holidays are coming they are going to be very hard on the two of us.
This could be your gift to her and us. Removal of all of this.
Thank you
Be safe ladies.
I'm here again and still see the comments about my daughter. I would really like all of it removed so her brother and I can grieve and TRY to find the answers.
Now I remember Angela..Thank you for telling me that my daughter gace a speech that sounds like her! She would never want anyone to have such a hard life. But my daughter was always welcomed home no matter what. And I will still stand and say I am proud of my daughter and everything she has done.
I'm sorry but some of what Angela said is true but I never worked at Lindas and what the hell you post some shit up here that you really don't know! Must of been drinking when you posted this.
And this "Brian" he can go to hell seeing that HE IS THE ONE THAT TALKED MY DAUGHTER INTO DOING SOME THINGS AT HIS GRANDMOTHERS (GLORIA YEAH THERE'S SOMEONE TO BE PROUD OF) The more I go on here the more I learn of fake ass people/friends.
You see my daughter always told me everything and even in her worst hours she would call me so I would not worry even though that couldn't be helped I always worried anyways.
I'm going to keep it real the only people that REALLY knew my daughter is her real brother that is my son, her boyfriend of 8 years and me. She shared everything with us.
So please do not come on here telling me about my daughter judging her when you were sitting in jail from drinking. Is that different? Don't preach addiction to me or anyone else as alcohol is just as addicting as anything else. Hell even love is an addiction! I have no plans on emailing you Angela as I don't hang with people like you. I don't drink/drugs/ go to jail ever! DON'T PLAY LIKE YOU KNOW HER!
LADIES BE CAREFUL IT'S GETTING COLDER.
I got your message cousin "T" thanks. Yeah our so called mothers are a real piece of work! They were the ones feeding my child vicodins and degrading her to where she felt like she was no longer loved and very unwanted or welcomed. She would go there and they would call the police to remove her. I moved closer to MY DADS HOUSE and she would stay with me and her brother (my son) all she wanted through some of those times was a place to lay her head and get some food.
But the nutjob grandmother she had pushed her out, left in allies in Detroit and there is so much more that woman did to her but I will not post it here.
Again I want to post that she did not die over drugs. She wasn't even dead when her body was burned. Yes burned alive!
I would like my daughters name and everything in reference to her to be removed. Some people are using this to get in touch with me and if I haven't talked to you by now I don't think I ever will.
I need to deal with this and don't need comments from people that has an addiction but believe is not an addiction but yet goes to jail for it. FACE IT that is no different! But my daughter wasn't driving putting other people at risk!boat
I decided to let everyone know I am on my way back.
As no one will help go get the person(s) behind this after I gave them the information that was provided to me.
I will see that person very soon!
I plan on keeping my promise. Ask anyone I am real big on keeping promises and I will wait for you to come out of class or I'll see ya in the "D".!!
But seeing that police don't give a shit about what happen to my daughter MAYBE they won't give a shit on what happens to you and my promise is to do EVERYTHING you did to my daughter!
I'll be seeing you very soon! And I will be waiting! JUST FOR YOU!
Ladies get some gloves and coats it's far to cold to be out in this weather walking around without these things.
People if you see someone in need of gloves,hat,coat FOOD help them don't just drive by. They could be one of your relatives!
Also please make sure you are home for Christmas with your kids.
Wish my daughter could be with me for Christmas but I got the next best thing. Information and revenge.
I'll help the ladies as much as I can when I'm back in the neighborhood but I need help on helping them.
Be safe! Make it home!
I'm on my way back.
Devasted Mother!
What is going on with the Elizondo case?
Haven't seen anything new posted about him.
Devasted Mother
The Judge sentenced him to 18 months probation. 44 days in jail, time served.
Cut and paste link below:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/23814885/CourtView-Public-Access
That's INSANE!! Such a short and petty sentence for what all he did. We all know he is already back out there beating women and "pimping" them again. I guess all I can do is hope and pray that he will be "found" very soon the same way alot of the women were "found" last winter.
I am still having a very hard time about dealing with my daughter being gone. Christmas was so hard! I made it until 4:00 and had to leave family and go to a room to let out all the pain and rage of her not being here with us for the holidays. To hear her laugh, open gifts sit down to our holiday meal. This was THE hardest year I have ever had my whole life! This has changed me in so many ways! Mostly towards the bad I have such a hate and rage that I can not let go and I know it won't ever fully go away! I still want and will be the one that gets to drop that flame on the a**hole that did this just waiting out the time.
I hope that some people that are going through what I went through has read what I have been writing and has allowed the child back home. Even if your child has made some bad decisions they need to know that they have a warm/safe place to through these cold months. And if not please help me help them that are out on the cold lonely streets. Even if it's a simple pair of gloves or a coat (I hope they all have coats..it's so cold) even a $4.00 meal with coffee or hot cocoa so they can eat and have something hot to drink they will thank you and you will find yourself leaving feeling that you did a good thing. Yes it will be painful but they can't be left out there feeling they have no place to go not knowing where they are going to get todays meal. Just please things we take for granted they don't have and becuse they are out there doesn't mean we can't help them in some way. Times are hard on all of us.But please if you are reading this then you have so much more then they do atleast you are warm and inside and able to use the computer a luxary item that most of them don't even know how to use one.
Everyone that is sitting inside regardless of how much money you have..you are already far more richer then they are. Can't really put a price on warmth, love and food.
Please look for your child (regardless of age) and atleast spend some time with them and have lunch and tell them they are loved. THEY NEED JUST A FEW WORDS TO HELP THEM. But they do need coats, gloves, boots anything..Something you have extra that you haven't used in years. It will go to someone that REALLY needs it.
Also I'd like to hear back from Mr. Cusumano again.
BE SAFE LADIES AND TRY TO STAY WARM.
Devasted mom
Here we are one year later and the pain is still here. In fact I think it is worse!
I have so many dreams about my daughter sad thing about it is most of them are bad. Bad as in I can see what she went through when she was killed. I have had some really good dreams about her but not many (I am thankful for those)
I see they placed one of the posts at the top. It is from one of her dads friends. I want to ask that person that posted that (about being at her service) If you are one of her dads friends then you should know how he treated her (her whole life) you would know how he never wanted anything to do with her and taught his son to call her horrible names. That was very hard for Jacqueline! Her "dad" made up her death cert. he didn't spell her name right, wrong age birth date and even lied saying she used his name. She never used his name! And for a "dad" you would think he would know atleast his childs age! He even had his sister call me and ask but I said he and they should know that and the "aunt" referred to my daughter in emails as "J" so please..the act her grandmother gave at that service was mild compared to what her "dads" side did. They can get mad! They KNOW I am right and they have to live with that. So being a friend of his you should know!
I have kept my word about coming back for what needs to be done. I am here and waiting. Police aren't doing anything so someone has to and I know who I am looking for! Just have to wait it out but that's all I have is TIME.
I just wanted to post that I'm here and to show that there is another fake person on here that was "upset" over my daughters death a "friend of the so called father" try talking to Friend of the court they can and will back up what I said about she had no father in her life!
I see there are less ladies out here. I hope it's because of the weather and not anything else or they have gotten their chance to go home. Please come find your wives, sisters daughters whoever and get them off the streets. If they have a problem of any kind it doesn't matter they are still the person you love They just need to know it!
be safe ladies....if it doesn't feel right it's not worth getting in the car! Pass it by! It is not worth your life or what happens to your mothers and siblings. My son and I are so lost without my daughter it is not worth it. And my daughter was not walking the streets when she was killed. She was visiting "friends". Yeah nice friends!
Devasted mother
It's been awhile since I have posted anything on here. I've been on here so many times waiting to see if anything new has happen.
It seems as though my daughter was forgotten by everyone except her real brother and me.
It's been well over a year and the pain is still with me.
I am still here in this "wonderful" city where it seems as though no one cares about women and what happens to them.
I think it is awful that NO LAW ENFORCEMENT has taken any time to get up from their comfy desk to talk to the people that I gave names of (yes I gave names as I know who you are and you have been lucky so far that I haven't seen you!)
If this happened to any law official the case would have been solved already HELL within days not as long as I have been waiting. Not even a year ago a judge was going to work and got robbed court was closed and the judge sat safely at home.
I wonder if it's the people with "power" or "money" that actually get help and cases solved. We have a real fucked up system here!
I sit here crying most days waiting for an answer as to why this was done. Then while I am outside or running to the store and I still see women walking alone. Women that are just going to a friends or a store I also see that even though so many lost their lives here it hasn't really had any effect on women getting into cars with men they do not know. It scares me! Almost to the point of becoming ill.
I think..Is she coming back? Where is her family? Why isn't she at home or school? What drove her to this? What can ANYONE do to help her stop? So many questions go through my head and as I am out sitting outside or going to the store I have NOT stopped watching for that little bastard that crushed my world. The rage is still within me and won't go away until I get to keep my promise that I made when I found out. Trust me you little crackhead bastard you will screw up and cross my path sooner or later!
And I have no pity on you nor will I when I get to do what I had promised!
Again cold weather is about to come upon us. Please help these ladies with whatever you can and don't expect anything in return! Other then you helped someone. Coats, hats, gloves, food, coffee ANYTHING!
BE SAFE AND IF IT DOESN'T FEEL RIGHT DON'T GET IN THE CAR IT'S NOT WORTH IT!
I wish the families would come and get their daughters and take them back home or to rehab whatever it is that they need. Just remember back to the day when she was born the joys she brought to you..It's your turn to bring her back to life and fill her with joy and safety.
I'll be back on here soon.
I think the person I am looking for has been able to get away because I look the same but that running can't last forever! You WILL PAY FOR WHAT YOU DID! And I hope it's me that gets to you before the police..Well it will be me first as they have not done anything to help me. Do you THINK they will help you or even give a shit about you when you are gone? Hell of a thought!
I WON'T GIVE UP!!
Devastated Mother....A mother looking for revenge and WILL get it
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